Body cleansing
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Sources
I'd be very interested to see some sources on this. Is this practice uncommon just because it's unpleasant or because nobody's proven it to have any benefits? 68.35.68.100 02:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Quite the contrary, personally I thought the insights about GI reaction to the toxins were especially illuminating considering the many "colorful" claims on many of these sites. Colon Cleansing from a Gastroenterologist's perspective." If there was really something to it, wouldn't Dr's use this stuff to say...cure colon cancer or Crohn's disease or something , but they don't.
Although, there are certainly detractors with regards to the health benefits of body cleansing, there are certainly respectable doctors who attribute great success in treating patients with body cleansing and nutritional programs. Dr. Becky Natrajan, M.D., a gastroenterologist in Tucson, AZ, has stated that she has seen more success in improving the health of her patients since she started treating her patients with a combination of both cellular cleansing products and nutritional supplements than the 11 years combined leading up to her use of cleansing to aid her practice of medicine. Other doctors who use body cleansing in their practice with similar results are Dr. Dennis Harper, D.O. of St. George, UT and also family practitioner and nutritionist Dr. Cynthia Watson, M.D of Santa Monica, CA. Dr. Becky Natrajan, M.D. states that when the body is cleansed properly and given the proper nutrition, it allows the body to heal itself. She has seen many diseases, such as diabetes, cancer, gastrointestinal disorders (IBS, Crohn's, Diverticulosis, etc.), fibromyalgia, lupus, obesity, and heart disease cured using body cleansing. She emphatically states that miracle is not the cleansing or the nutrition, but that these things allow the body to heal itself naturally, as it was designed to do. Fox 31 News in Denver, CO attempted to debunk body cleansing by having volunteers use body cleansing and nutritional products. The test lasted 9 days and the volunteers wound up feeling much more energy, healthier, and as a side-effect lost weight, all while preserving muscle mass. Weight loss, Fox 31 News concluded, was a side-effect of a cleaner, healthier body.
other therapies. If such therapies had such clear effects, it would be vary easy to do a double-blind study, and quite inexpensive - the producer of such a study would easily gain fame. The biggest reason such studies are not out there is that any that have been carried out have failed, and the researchers have not published them. j-beda 13:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Quick Body Cleanse Detox Video
criticism
I'm removing the reference to the non-quackwatch website from the criticism section. If someone thinks it belongs there, discuss it here.
2/9/09 I'm removing the phrase starting "Most doctors" because both of the references given were neither written by a doctor nor published in a peer reviewed journal. While it may be true that "most doctors" do not recommend body cleansing, it is your responsibility to provide a source if you wish to write that. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.136.57 (talk) 04:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
NPOV
This is an advocacy piece in favor of "body cleansing." We need some sources here. --causa sui talk 06:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
--Clearly it is mostly anti-detox. What makes the least sense is that the actual specifics that the article does discuss appears to be what doctors basically recommend you eat and drink (+fruits/veggies, -alcohol, caffeine, processed food). Then it goes on and on about a few doctors who think this is dangerous (maybe they have some reasons, but as the page flows, this seems absurd) while pro-detox references have been taken off lest you advertise for "quacks".
So, the article is unbalanced anyway, but beyond this it seems to give a good picture of what a detox diet is and then focuses on criticism. This looks unbelievable. If this is not fixed, I might start making changes. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.75.52.109 (talk) 01:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Until someone defines the so called "toxins" that these products remove. There stands a lot of evidence that these products are purporting false health claims so I believe article neutrality is no longer an issue. It's not an "anti-detox" article; it states referenced sources questioning the efficacy of the product. Why are we having issues or article neutrality when the rules of No Original Research applies. These people who claim to have seen miraculous benefits need to present us some sort of method of action, how exactly does the product differentiate between a "toxin" and regular gut flora when no one has defined what a body toxin is. I think someone needs to present physical evidence as to how where and why they're accumulating in the body. Safez (talk) 21:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
The product is body cleansers/detoxifiers. The beliefs are that you are eliminating harmful toxins with the substances the detoxifying products contain. Apparently there is some efficacy to the claim (see our so called medical herbalist below)of plants containing certain agents that work on liver enzymes that handle the detox process and if true by all means cite them into the article. The fact that such a wide range of detoxifying products are mentioned is irrelevant as there purported method of action remains the same so therefore the criticism is in context.
There still remains the issue of classifying a "body toxin". Safez (talk) 03:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This article's NPOV could be assisted by confining the article to generalities and providing sections specific to the various methods of body cleansing and discussing their method of action. Various modalities of body cleansing are currently employed, ranging from physical treatments (e.g. colon cleansing), to dietary restrictions (e.g. avoiding foods) or dietary supplements. Some variants involve the use of herbs and supplements that purportedly speed or increase the effectiveness of the process of cleansing. Several naturopathic and homeopathic preparations are also promoted for cleansing; such products are often marketed as targeting specific organs, such as fiber for the colon or juices for the kidneys.
For example, just from the above excerpt from the background we can identify, colon cleansing, dietary restriction, dietary supplement, naturopathic and homeopathic remedy as potential body cleanses. Safez (talk) 02:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Detox diet
Merged from Talk:Detox diet
Toxins within Fruits and Vegetables
"it is known that fruits and vegetables actually contain more natural toxins than substances such as meat or fish" --User:67.102.158.90 Well known? I'd like to see some references or some actual data here.
BTW speaking on the topic of "defense mechanice" of plants. It is true but humans long ago already knew that. That is why all pulses and cereals should be soaked for atleast two hours if not overnight before cooking. But nowadays nobody follows that. This deactivates the phytic acid. I never have problem with beans(gas problems) when prepared at home because in our house we soak beans overnight. But if i have it in a hotel I have problems it is obvious that they do not soak it in water and prefer adding some baking soda to it to help it cook faster. Detox diets has shown visible benifits. This seems to be like the research done by other "scientists" on vitamins. They proved that vitamins only gave you expensive pee. But real world has proved otherwise and many people have benifited from vitamin supplements over the years. There is another research that says that vitamins should be taken with meals or else they might not be absorbed by the body. But these "scientists" dont want to tell us that as they are funded by the pharma giants, who now realised that vitamins make people healthy and that is "bad for business". I am sure this research on detox also is some similiear disinformation being spread.
Gwaeraurond's Case in Regards to the nature of Toxins in Foods
Meat bought in a store, and if not certified organic, may contain added chemical preservatives. Fresh fruits and vegetables may also contain trace amounts of chemical pollution through the soil, acid rain and air quality (e.g. roadside berries absorb toxins from exhaust fumes). All of these factors contribute to the quality of the food, and certified organicfoods have air and water polution considerations unless grown in hydroponics. The argument for and against either is very difficult to address. My reason to choose fruits and vegatables over meats is content. Meat is mostly fat and protein, where fruits and vegetables have much more vitamin and antioxidant content. These, even including trace toxins, are simply better for detoxing because it includes nutrients good for a body going through detox.
A view I feel carries a lot of weight is the belief the way an animal lives and dies affects the quality of it's meat. Under this concept, if an animal is raised in cramped conditions and then dies in a very painful way (animal cruelty) then there would be a trace "energy" transferred into the person who eats it. Although this has no scientific value, because it is a concept applied by many who perform the detox diet (myself included), I feel it has value in the argument. On the opposite side of this theory, I once met an organic chicken farmer who believed that if the animal was raised with love, and killed with prayer and respect, the quality is actually better than in plants because of a positive transfer of energy. (see Reiki, and Metaphysics) although the same could be said singing to plants benefitting their food quality. Although energies have no scientific weight, what does is that when stressed, certain chemicals are released into the body which may not be good to have or to eat, while when happy the opposite occurs. Cows have been demonstrated to produce more milk when in a good mood, chickens lay healthier eggs, and in one study performed by Myth Busters, plants really do respond to emotional voices, be it anger or song, and from a phsychological point of view when we are happy we deal with our physical health better than when depressed, and obviously a healthy animal yields healthy meat. From this perspective then, one may conclude that the emotional state of what we eat directly relates to the amount of toxins found in the system, and in turn relates to how good or bad it may be to consume. However on that regard, more studies would need to be performed but the value of the belief in itself holds value in discussion simply because it accepted and practiced. Gwaeraurond 3-3-2006, 7:17PM EST
MythBusters is fun to watch but isn't great science AFAIK. I'd have to guess plants benefit from any sort of talking over no talking because this would result in exhaling air with a larger percentage of carbon dioxide in it near them. As to whether singing/praising helps versus yelling hurting, there are so many variables there - does the body exhale different percentages of gases in these ways, does the force of expelling air make a difference, what might the sound waves be doing, etc. Possibly an article about Talking to plants could be interesting, although without sources that would likely go straight to AFD. ??????? 14:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Example of a specific detox diet rather than being inclusive of all detox diets
This seems to be a rather specific example of a detox diet. Would someone care to expand on this, reflecting the various uses of the term? Dforest 01:44, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Gwaeraurond's Detox Diet!
Said article is not a Detox Diet, and the conclusions are assumptive. Although, yes, the body is more than capable of taking care of Toxins on it's own. Certain Organs and Fat do store up Toxins, some forms of Detox diets are specifically for releasing this build-up. The Form of Detox I personally use, is done once a month or so, and not really a lifestyle. My Detox Diet:
- Day 1: I Reduce my eating to lite Foods, Drinking Plenty of Spring Water. The Purpose of this day is to ease my way into day two, as it is unhealthy to make any sudden changes to diet.
- Day 2: On this day, is Fasting. My only Intake is Water, and said supplements. Sometimes I will take another day or so of this, but my first time was only half a day becuase my body was not used to it.
- Day 3: I do the same thing as day one. It is important not to make Sudden changes in Diet, but to gradually move into and out of change.
This Diet Follows the concept, as outlined in the article, that when blood-sugar is low Toxins are released from the body. The Purpose of the lite Foods is only to give the body a step-down to Fasting, for Health Reasons. Some of the Supplements are used to help the Body Cope with the Change, while the Specific Detox Herbs are Used to Detox the Organs that have to deal with the amount of Toxins released, so it does not simply settle back in.
This is my idea of a Detox diet. I don't believe that it is Good to live like this all the time though, because the body needs a wide varity of Nutrients. For this reason, when not detoxing, I eat many different foods and enjoy the health of Balanced living. It is a diet I made for myself due to my own lifestyle. Other people will find other methods of well being, because each body is different. -Gwaeraurond 1-8-2006, 11:57 PM EST
NPOV?
I've added a {{neutrality}} tag as this article seems far from neutral as it stands - mostly it's anti-detox, with unverified claims made. sheridan 17:36, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Definition of toxin
Having looked at the discussion above, it's clear that "toxin" is being used to mean anything from "physiologically injurious species of molecule" (the exact species not being specified, with the exception of a mention on the article page of mercury - and I'm not sure that fasting is the recommended best practice for mercury poisoning) to "bad karma" or similar. It'd be nice to know if there is a consensus of what is being talked about when the term is used, and what the reason is to think that restricting one's diet for a period should have an effect - whether it's based on empirical (and hopefully non-anecdotal) evidence or on theoretical principles, and what evidence there is in turn for those principles. Pseudomonas 15:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
elimination through metabolism
Critics point out that the human liver, kidneys, lungs and skin have evolved to adequately expel environmental contaminants and are perfectly equipped to continue to do so unassisted.
Generally, this is true, but not in all cases. There are substances which are known to accumulate in the body, e.g. fluoride and retinoids, etc. Whether these substances can be eliminated over time through diet regimens is disputable.--Dan Asad 06:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello I am a busy medical herbalist and am regularly encountering solid factual scientific evidence supporting the action of herbs to be able to enhance liver detoxification systems by modifying the cytochrome P450 enzyme systems, enhancing glutathione production, providing powerful antioxidants such as super oxide dysmutase, enhancing complement systems and natural killer cell activity. Stimulating diuresis, defaecation, diaphoresis - sweating, expectoration - phlegm expulsion among other effects helps to boost the body's own elimination pathways. Modern science, clinical experience and history all support this viewpoint. The exact mechanisms will no doubt be explored further and further in future as a natural progression of what we already know. The idea of freeing the body's resources from detox metabolism by enhancing those systems through intervention is akin to hiring a cleaner to come and do your housework once a week, giving you time (and the body free resources) to focus on sorting other issues that may have been neglected. This explains why the body may well throw off a chronic infection after a herbal detox that it just could not shake before, or perhaps recover from a bout of chronic inflammation. The abstinence from red meat is well documented down to very specific enzyme systems influencing prostaglandin metabolism by containing arachidonic acid that favours the production of inflammatory chemical messengers, as opposed to omega 3,6,9 oils found in seeds etc which are anti inflammatory in effectSee Udo Erasmus Fats that Heal Fats that Kill. Not to mention the heavier load place on the kidneys by purines from meat protein.
There is always a tendency by the mainstream to rubbish the minority and treat it as 'Guilty until proven innocent' furthermore the complexity of interactions within herbal remedies does not lend it to research based on isolated constituents, here in the UK 150 people die a year from Aspirin use but, it is considered a 'safe' drug. How many die of Milk Thistle etc? Furthermore in clinical trials test subjects much abstain from St Johns Wort, Seville oranges, pineapple, poppy seeds, grapefruit, caffeine etc before ward admission. These are all naturally occuriing but which are known to influence liver enzymes and speed up drug clearance from the body, yet, still people say there is nothing to this 'charlatans facade' there are double standards here and people putting forward ignorant opinions without scientific basis. Where is the proof that Seville Oranges or Grapefruits do not alter toxin metabolism? You will not find it because they do.
As for the 'most doctors agree that...' comments here is an example of one of numerous Dr s who are aware of this issue
http://keyboard-culture-health-and-wellness.com/2009/02/how_to_raise_glutathione_gsh_levels_part_5_more_supplements_touted_to_raise_glutathione_gsh_alpha_li.html
Some References to look at that i can find without hardly any effort at all, i know there are even more specific ones out there too as i have used them before.
Curcumin or Saikosaponin a Improves Hepatic Antioxidant Capacity and Protects Against CCl4-Induced Liver Injury in Rats
Salmi H, Sarna S. Effect of silymarin on chemical, functional, and morphological alterations of the liver. Scand J Gastroenterol 1982;17:517-21
Interactions of herbs with cytochrome P450 Authors: Shufeng Zhou, Yihuai Gao, Wenqi Jiang, Min Huang, Anlong Xu, James W Paxton
Effects of the active components of some Chinese herbs on drug metabolizing-enzymes Authors: Xiu-fen Yang, Nai-ping Wang, Fan-dian Zeng --Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.150.20 (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
That this part was added shows that whoever added it didn't do their research. More exact specification needs to be made since most detox diets are juice or water diets, the eventual goal of which is to enter into a ketogenic state, thereby burning residual fat and releasing the toxins contained therein. Example A: http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/pest/ddtchem.html -- DDT is fat-soluble and people who have had inordinate exposure are warned against fasting because doing so releases a flood of built up DDT into the system. Thus... toxins being removed. DDT is an extreme example in this regard, but there are many fat-soluble toxins the body absorbs over time. The problem with the above-mentioned statement is that while the listed organs are (generally) good at detoxifying, they aren't all inclusive. The lungs do expel toxins, but they do not burn fat to release fat-soluble crap, so while the above statement is correct, it's also largely irrelevent. And while the liver is responsible for converting stored fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies (ketogenesis), it doesn't do so until the last meal has been fully digested AND the half-a-day reserve of glucose the liver stores is used up, so while the liver is able to detoxify (and does), it doesn't do so in the relevant sense until a fast is experienced. In conclusion, can someone rewrite the above statement? It's irrelevant, misleading, and any relevance it DOES have is far too vague. FinalStrife7 (talk) 19:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Herxheimer reaction
It is my understanding that Herxheimer reactions require a pathogen, and thus I see no relation to detox diets. I have removed unsourced references to them. Headwes 22:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Malaise
Quote: "if low blood sugar levels force the body to begin rapidly metabolising large amounts of fat, then these toxins will be released into the bloodstream. Symptoms often mentioned are headaches, sore muscles..." Has any evidence been published in a _real_ journal that release of 'toxins' accounts for the slightly-lousy-all-over feeling that accompanies the early stages of fasting or 'detox'? Notreallydavid 16:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Edits by User:99.244.49.244
I'm looking at the edits by this user, and some of it seems destructive. Compare now and before. In particular, the criticism section has had all its references removed, had most of the more serious criticisms removed (particularly, any mention of the body's natural mechanisms for dealing with toxins, and indeed any discussion of toxins whatsoever), and feels even more weasel-wordy than before. It feels as if someone's built a straw man in the criticism section. Some of the stuff added elsewhere seems beneficial to the article, so summarily reverting would be unreasonable, but I think a lot of what's been done to the criticism section should be undone, although I wouldn't want to do anything like this without some sort of community support. Opinions? James pic 10:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Woman left brain damaged by detox
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7520756.stm --Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.191.254.199 (talk) 11:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Proposed References
This article do not contain information I expected. I was expecting more detail on detox diet when visiting this article but it only provide definition and reference to detox news. I would propose reference to site such as http://www.juice-detox.com/ and REMOVED that will guide users to various topics directly related detox diet.
I was extremely disappointed to find this article didn't really have any information about detox. It is frustrating that anything believed or reputed but not with a published scientific paper is being excluded from Wikipedia. I would expect a statement along the lines of "some claim benefits of detoxing to be (x, y, z)" or "examples of detox diet types are (blah)". Referencing sources (rather than desmissing them as "quacks") is appropriate and informative; removing useful references is unnecessary censorship based on your own biased views. Obviously the references should be notable in their field, well established, etc. I have had this problem on Wikipedia with almost anything I have tried to look up and overly restrictive science-heads seem to be spoiling it's informational function. Fine, include criticisms, warnings, "some sources say that detoxing is pointless" or whatever you want, but don't just strip out all of the information and cultural richness that's out there!!! From an angry person who doesn't really use this site because she's sick of such self-important attitudes. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.2.88 (talk) 06:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Promoting Quacks?
The Further Reading section lists a number of detox diet books. Do these actually add anything to the article, or are they just providing advertising for a number of quacks? Unless the books are notable, I'd suggest deleting them all.78.149.84.205 (talk) 14:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
* Detox in a Weekend: An Easy-To-Follow Diet and Health Plan: Lose weight and improve your health the fast but safe way with a unique three-day meal planner ... in more than 250 color photographs by Maggie Pannell (2008), ISBN 1844763528 * The Two-week Detox Diet: Cleanse and boost your system in just 14 days by Maggie Pannell (2008), ISBN 1844764648 * The Detox Diet Cookbook (Healthy Eating Library) by Nicola Graines (2007), ISBN 0754804739 * The Great American Detox Diet: Feel Better, Look Better, and Lose Weight by Cleaning Up Your Diet by Alex Jamieson (2006), ISBN 1594864845 * The Raw Food Detox Diet: The Five-Step Plan for Vibrant Health and Maximum Weight Loss by Natalia Rose (2006), ISBN 0060834374 * The Fast Track Detox Diet: Boost metabolism, get rid of fattening toxins, jump-start weight loss and keep the pounds off for good by Ann Louise Gittleman (2006), ISBN 0767920465 * The Lemon Detox Diet: Rejuvenation Sensation by K.A. Beyer (2006), ISBN 0955322901 * The Rice Diet Solution: The World-Famous Low-Sodium, Good-Carb, Detox Diet for Quick and Lasting Weight Loss by Rosati and Rosati (2005), ISBN 0743289838 * The Detox Diet: A How-To & When-To Guide for Cleansing the Body by Elson M. Haas (2004), ISBN 1587611899 * Patrick Holford The Holford 9-Day Liver Detox (2008)
I detoxified this article
I removed the following statements.
"Some detox foods are even able to treat food allergies [6]
A detox diet, based on veganism and raw foodism, when combined with a proper program of colon cleansing has been the basis of successful treatment of disease for over 50 years as referenced in the "Hippocrates Health Program," by Dr. Brian R. Clement.[7]"
--74.78.116.93 (talk) 01:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Yawn, grow up. Angry user from above again. I'm sure somebody'll delete this anyway. Oh what's the point? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.2.88 (talk) 06:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Merger
I've merged this page with the Detox diet since the two articles were largely redundant (especially the criticism sections); and the two together make a much better page than either one separately. I've condensed some sections and eliminated some overlap, but the new article maintains virtually all the content and most of the references (although I cut out quite a few of the old external links, most of them survive as citations). LSD (talk)
citations
citation #12 is out of place, and should be in criticism section, while in current place should be put citation that talks about the the diets and ingredient proportions. 79.101.174.192 (talk) 19:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Weight Loss
The article purports to be about body cleansing, described as ridding the body of harmful substances, presumably toxins. Later on this section pops up: Highly restrictive detox diets such as Water fasting or the Master Cleanse are not the safest form of weight loss. These diets, if done improperly or for too long, may result in nutrient deficiencies. Of particular concern is lack of protein, which may result in wasting of muscle tissue, due to insufficient amino acids for repair. With less lean muscle tissue, the body's metabolic needs decrease, which hampers weight loss efforts unless calories are lessened further in the diet.[19] This is the first mention of weight loss, and seems to have nothing to do with anything. While of course some diets claim weight loss benefits, that doesn't seem to be what's being discussed here. I suggest this part is removed. Greenman (talk) 11:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Humoral theory of health
The article states: The premise of body cleansing is based on the Ancient Egyptian and Greek idea of autointoxication, in which foods consumed or in the humoral theory of health that the four humours themselves can putrefy and produce toxins that harm the body. I cannot access the source, but this seems a ridiculously broad claim to make. The real problem is that this article is quick to list criticism, but hasn't defined what it's criticising. Making a broad claim that all body cleansing is based on the above seems ridiculous, and the claim should go. Greenman (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Addition of new links/examples
Hello, Could I please request an able wikipedian to add a Colon Cleanse section to this article with an excerpt and link to that particular articles main page? Would it also be appropriate to elaborate on the various methods of body cleansing with links to their respective pages? I mean so far we have Detox Diets and not much else... I would really like to see this article improve even further to give people are more informed decision on the pros and cons and different methods of body cleansing. let us know. Cheers! Safez (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Duplicate Sourcing: Eliminating & Improving
This article is misleadingly referenced. The following references: [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] are all based on this single press-release: [13] from Sense About Science. Four articles are sourced and the weasel word "critics" is used without identifying who the critics are. I changed this to "Sense about Science"...since it's a single organization, I would say more sources are needed to establish a scientific consensus.
I propose eliminating all these duplicates (i.e. all news articles) in the way they are used, unless people would like to cite specific.
Also, there's a better and more detailed source from Sense About Science that is not referenced and probably should be--the report that these news articles are about! It can be found here: Sense About Science - The Detox Dossier Cazort (talk) 15:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
History & science of detoxing
I agree with many of the writers here that not all detox methods are healthy and that many are probably an opportunistic grab at the hard earned dollars of susceptible people. However, let's not "throw the baby out with the bathwater". As shown above, there is merit to the idea of detoxing, but there is a lot of information and disinformation, science and pseudoscience, to sift through. 4learning (talk) 23:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)4Learning
From detoxification foot pads
Initial comments
I am not a promoter of detox foot pads. I came to Wikipedia looking for information on them and when I found nothing, I added the page. Whether they are a hoax or not, they deserve an informative article. If they are in fact a hoax, then that information will be in the article. It is very hard to find legitimate information on detox foot pads, which is why I came looking for information on them on Wikipedia. Since this is an article that is attempting to describe what these are and the medical research on them, it does not meet the criteria for deletion. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Computerhag (talk o contribs) 04:27, 8 January 2008.
I found this Wikipedia page fairly non-informative without test results we should refrain from opinions and using words such as quackery until it is proven. I understand how people might not beleive but Wikipedia is not a wepage to form opinions.
There was one major error. The skin is permeable. Although the use of Foot Pads is not proven, errors such as this make your article less credible. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.108.190.2 (talk) 16:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Permeable or semi-permeable or not is debatable, I suppose, but the skin does have sweat glands, and sweat glands do remove toxins from the body. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.27.84 (talk) 18:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_glands#Merocrine_sweat_glands --Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.27.84 (talk) 18:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
March 2008 comments
If you look at the comments below the sciencepunk articles, you will see that the fact that these things do not work is disputed. I'm not saying that I think they definitely work, because I do not know. It would be easy enough for someone to analyze a used foot pad in a lab to put the discussion to rest, but so far no one has done that...so really the discussion is still open. Hello415 (talk) 03:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Ingredients list for one brand
A little more NPR info
http://www.wellsphere.com/vitamins-supplements-article/detoxifying-foot-pads-are-a-scam/423142
This has a few more details. Also mention of the wide range of moisture that works, along with the smell coming from the materials and not "toxins" --Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.73.179 (talk) 21:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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